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    Expense Report: WordSearch Hero

    In the interest of sharing information....

    WordSearch Hero went out yesterday. https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...wordsearchhero

    Development time: 16 months

    Costs to contractors:
    Outsourced Programming: $23k
    Outsourced Graphics work: $35k

    Misc other expenses too.

    What did I get for all that work ?
    - 2450 drawables.
    - 76k LOC excluding all libraries/addons/jar files/etc

    Comments:
    1) Don't reply saying "I could have got the graphics work for cheaper/etc" .... the last person that tried that ended up finding out it was only true if the graphics were shitty.
    2) Don't spam this thread with "congrats" messages. Use this thread: http://forums.makingmoneywithandroid...y-3rd-app.html
    3) I am probably going to drop a decent amount into FB advertising...

    And for some unknown reason... it is available in Google Play via search..... but not showing up in the "What's New" lists..... grrr
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    Nice Game.

    Avatar Creation seems a little overkill.
    I thought you are a developer and did original Word Hero development by yourself. Any reason for outsourcing development of this game?

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    It's pretty impresive ammount of money. I hope it will pay off

    What I can say: avatars on the beginning are bit pixeled (Motorola Moto G) Also faces have their forhead cut. Another thing are all those communicates at the beginning. I don't mean tutorial but avatar change or version info. I think it's too much for people who just started the app for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Any reason for outsourcing development of this game?
    I outsourced the creation of the game board, and dragging/selecting of letters.
    I also outsourced the following, but did not use them in the game:
    - Timely like timer that counts down (if anyone wants to redo this in AndEngine, I will pay you. You will need to be comfortable with low level OpenGL though!)
    - Using Facebook to exchange 'items' (eg: unlock levels, extra lives)
    - QuickBlox chat client implementation

    Yes... there was meant to be realtime chat in the game too... but I cut that feature as it would take too damn long to make it look/feel decent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateusz View Post
    What I can say: avatars on the beginning are bit pixeled (Motorola Moto G) Also faces have their forhead cut. Another thing are all those communicates at the beginning. I don't mean tutorial but avatar change or version info. I think it's too much for people who just started the app for the first time.
    - Avatars are 512x512, but it will downsample based on the size of the image requested. Quality depends on the drawable downsizing algorithm.
    - Forehead : try the zoom button on the right side of the Avatar
    - I know.... but wtf do you do when people complain they cannot understand your game ? However, look at how complex Puzzles&Dragons is.. That sucker needs a manual!
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    WOW, thatīs a HUGE investment for a single person (at least in my country). Good luck! Bring 5MM downloads!
    Looking for a super talented 2D Artist to work with us!

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    Incidentally... to the person who tried to sell me fake reviews ... and their website also sells GP accounts.... you might want to rethink how those two look together
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaksaiApps View Post
    WOW, thatīs a HUGE investment for a single person (at least in my country). Good luck! Bring 5MM downloads!
    Yeah... it's like a year's salary after tax here for an Engineer (not a software engineer... a REAL one!)
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    That's actually a pretty high amount of money but I think it also shows how expensive all this work actually is. In that region I would actually question if the game is able to pay it back - I hope it will, at least because it means the mobile market is still open for opportunities if someone decides to invest a lot of money/time into it.

    Can I ask why you target the android market - it still seems true, that there is more money on the iphone market (talking about ROI) - not sure if andengine is capable of crossplattform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reiti.net View Post
    That's actually a pretty high amount of money but I think it also shows how expensive all this work actually is. In that region I would actually question if the game is able to pay it back - I hope it will, at least because it means the mobile market is still open for opportunities if someone decides to invest a lot of money/time into it.

    Can I ask why you target the android market - it still seems true, that there is more money on the iphone market (talking about ROI) - not sure if andengine is capable of crossplattform?
    Technically, I have a really good graphics guy I am paying $35/hr. I feel that is reasonable and a lot cheaper than someone in the USA. Remember those costs are over 16months, not 12.

    Why Android only ? Because Android has 80% of the world market, and I could leverage all the WordHero leaderboard + low level networking code. I would love to be able to release on all platforms.... but with 70k LOC excluding all the 3rd party SDK's.... how long would it have taken 1 guy ? Oh... and I don't want to buy Apple hardware
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