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    Mind and others,

    There are significant issues about Facebook Native advertising which are not raised by people yet:

    So the Basic concept is ad embedded in content appear just like content?
    So what would the most likely result of that?
    a) Accidental Clicks.

    Making ads looks like content used to called as clear Scam in old days. Now it is cleverly being marketed as Native Ads.

    Cost Per Click for banners are low for a reason. i,e its mostly accidental clicks. But Cost per click for native ads (They are banner ads with significantly higher accidental clicks because they are placed in-between and looks like content) is significantly high.

    FYI: Also since web ads most clicks on Facebook are by bots. Looks like same is true for Mobile ads.

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    OK , here is what I know:
    1. the worst place to display ads is facebook. (read articel few months back).
    2. targeted ads don't work as expected.(Own experience and I read few articles too).

    My advice is to stop using facebook and targeted ads.
    Go for the people that are looking for something new. Make user profile and target by the profil.

    PS
    After purchasing low cost ticket, google kept showing me flight ads based on my IP... I already had the ticket.. targeted is baaaad .. will be better to show me something completely different, something new for me.

    PS2
    At the end the good product doesnt need ads.. Did you implement "Tell a friend" option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johna View Post
    After purchasing low cost ticket, google kept showing me flight ads based on my IP... I already had the ticket.. targeted is baaaad .. will be better to show me something completely different, something new for me.

    Targeted is not bad. Its been around for a while and works fairly well.
    You should understand the concept of retargeting which is fairly common.
    Also large advertisers has a way to inform ad companies back about completion of purchase (to let advertisers know not to target anymore).

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    OK, I emailed the Google App Review team about WSH, since it is now pretty stable/etc. Let's hope someone there reads the email and features WSH like they did to WordHero !
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    Quote Originally Posted by mind View Post
    OK, I emailed the Google App Review team about WSH, since it is now pretty stable/etc. Let's hope someone there reads the email and features WSH like they did to WordHero !
    what is google app review? what's the point of the email? Do they even read emails from small developers? Where did you get the email address to them?

    Thanks for answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateusz View Post
    what is google app review? what's the point of the email? Do they even read emails from small developers? Where did you get the email address to them?
    Thanks for answer
    Back in 'the old days', Google had a team that would review apps and if your app was good enough, it would get 'Featured' at the top app on Google Play. This would make it an instant success (as least as far as downloads go). However, some apps were not immediately ready (eg: no feature graphics), so an email address was set up so the Review Team could communicate with the developer.

    My hope is that by emailing this (old) email address, someone will read it and check out WSH and maybe add it to the curated app lists.

    And NO, I don't feel comfortable providing this email address to anyone, since you needed to include certain headers with it to ensure it got to the right people and those headers are app specific (ie: I am (ab)using the WordHero headers).
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    Quote Originally Posted by mind View Post
    Back in 'the old days', Google had a team that would review apps and if your app was good enough, it would get 'Featured' at the top app on Google Play. This would make it an instant success (as least as far as downloads go). However, some apps were not immediately ready (eg: no feature graphics), so an email address was set up so the Review Team could communicate with the developer.
    It seems that you made Anagram Hero and Word Search Hero based on the certainty/strong belief that you would been featured, am i wrong? You have to consider that back in those days being featured resulted in 100´s of thousand of downloads because just a couple of games got featured, but now there are many categories, resulting in less downloads per app.

    In my case, Tap the Box was featured as Fun with Physics in 2nd position for 4 weeks last year and brought 150k US downloads.

    My point is that basing the success of an app on being featured (not saying you did that) is very risky, the app should be good enough to be able to take off on his own.
    Looking for a super talented 2D Artist to work with us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaksaiApps View Post
    It seems that you made Anagram Hero and Word Search Hero based on the certainty/strong belief that you would been featured, am i wrong? You have to consider that back in those days being featured resulted in 100´s of thousand of downloads because just a couple of games got featured, but now there are many categories, resulting in less downloads per app.

    In my case, Tap the Box was featured as Fun with Physics in 2nd position for 4 weeks last year and brought 150k US downloads.

    My point is that basing the success of an app on being featured (not saying you did that) is very risky, the app should be good enough to be able to take off on his own.
    Did you wrote to google as mind or they've seen you because you had good app?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaksaiApps View Post
    It seems that you made Anagram Hero and Word Search Hero based on the certainty/strong belief that you would been featured, am i wrong? You have to consider that back in those days being featured resulted in 100´s of thousand of downloads because just a couple of games got featured, but now there are many categories, resulting in less downloads per app.
    You're absolutely right - recently i've read some article about being featured. It gave someone much less downloads. Market is changing, rules are changing too.

    But let's get back to topic - Word Search Hero.

    I'm afraid of one thing. I hope i'll be wrong, but i'm afraid that mind could make one mistake. His first game - Word Hero was featured and gained success because it was very simple yet enjoying. Letters were big thanks to 4x4 board. So control was very easy - no problem with touching letters. Also game was playable on low end phones.

    2nd and 3rd game is based on similar concept (online game) but with different rules, different gameplay. Basically (from what i've read) there are more features, more everything. But maybe somewhere simplicity has been lost. I've read that some ppl are complaining that letters in word search hero are too small - i see that board is 12x12 - so it makes huge difference. Probably on smaller phones players have huge problems with touching them. That may lead to more uninstalls and worse install / uninstall ratio. And ultimately to worse position in rankings. Also maybe concept of searching words is not so enjoying for ppl as making them.

    I hope i'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaksaiApps View Post
    It seems that you made Anagram Hero and Word Search Hero based on the certainty/strong belief that you would been featured, am i wrong?
    I made them with the belief that I could make a game that was good enough to get featured. However, I did not assume that I would get the game featured.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike82 View Post
    You're absolutely right - recently i've read some article about being featured. It gave someone much less downloads. Market is changing, rules are changing too.

    But let's get back to topic - Word Search Hero.

    I'm afraid of one thing. I hope i'll be wrong, but i'm afraid that mind could make one mistake. [snipped] But maybe somewhere simplicity has been lost.
    Maybe... But I like to make game that are simple at first, but have a secondary game built into them. This keeps it interesting for more advanced users. Incidentally the board size is now 11x11 .... server configurable
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